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Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

Director Debra Granik of "Leave No Trace" and "Winter's Bone"

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

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Society & Culture

4.72.7K Ratings

🗓️ 19 February 2019

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Happy Tuesday! This time, we're listening back to our 2018 conversation with filmmaker Debra Granik. In 2010, she wrote and directed "Winter's Bone," the acclaimed drama that launched Jennifer Lawrence's career and was nominated for a Best Picture Oscar. Now, the long awaited follow-up is available to stream on Amazon. It's called "Leave No Trace" and it's been met with similar acclaim. She and Jesse talk about the new film, about the pitfalls of calling an artist a "genius" and her first ever paid movie gig: shooting weddings!

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0:00.0

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn is a production of MaximumFun.org and is distributed by NPR.

0:13.6

I'm Jesse Thorn, it's Bullseye.

0:22.6

In 2010, Debra Granick made a movie called Wintersbone, and was sort of a modern film noir,

0:28.6

except instead of being set in LA or New York, it was set in the Ozarks in Missouri.

0:34.6

And instead of a gum shoe in a fedora, it followed a 17-year-old girl as she pieced together

0:39.4

the story behind her father's disappearance.

0:42.0

Reed Dolly, that's the girl, walked through burned-out meth labs, negotiated with crime families,

0:48.6

bail bondsmen and cops.

0:50.6

It was a small movie, a lot of dialogue, a lot of beautiful exterior shots at a modest budget.

0:55.6

I mean, you probably already know this, but Reed Dolly was played by an actress named Jennifer Lawrence,

1:00.6

who's her first ever starring role.

1:03.6

Lawrence's performance was great, but it's not the only reason Wintersbone was nominated for best picture that year.

1:09.6

Debra Granick got the tone perfectly.

1:12.6

It's quiet where it needs to be, the dialogue is sparse and plain spoken, but the drama keeps you watching, wrapped.

1:18.6

The characters, some of the poorest, most underserved people in the country, are complex, relatable people.

1:24.6

It talks as much about family and love as it does the dark underbelly of the Ozarks.

1:30.6

The law came back today.

1:33.6

Dad's signed over everything to his bond.

1:36.6

Victoria, I really got to run Dad down to get him to show.

1:41.6

You ought not to do that.

1:44.6

I'll go run after Jessica.

1:49.6

Show her, don't show it. That choice is up to one that's going to jail. Not you.

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