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Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

Artist Barbara Kruger

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

NPR

Society & Culture

4.72.7K Ratings

🗓️ 15 February 2019

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Dream interview alert! Today: Jesse talks with Barbara Kruger. Kruger is a fascinating and profoundly influential artist. She works in big, bold text usually in white font over ribbons of red. The text is usually superimposed over black and white photos, usually of people. The messages say stuff like "YOUR BODY IS A BATTLEGROUND," "WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER HERO," or "DON'T BE A JERK." If all that doesn't ring a bell yet, you can find thousands of samples of her work on the internet. Maybe the fonts and colors remind of you something: the Supreme logo? That Instagram Stories filter? It all started with Barbara Kruger. Jesse talks with Kruger about why she dropped out of art school, how she found footing in the contemporary art world, and what she's trying to communicate these days in her work.

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0:00.0

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn is a production of MaximumFun.org and is distributed by NPR.

0:14.4

I'm Jesse Thorn, it's Bullseye.

0:23.4

It's Bullseye, I'm Jesse Thorn.

0:25.7

My guest Barbara Krueger is an artist.

0:29.0

He works in text mostly.

0:31.5

Big bold letters, usually in white over a ribbon of red.

0:36.9

The text is often superimposed over black and white photos.

0:41.3

Pictures that look like they could have come from mid-century advertisements.

0:46.1

The messages say stuff like, your body is a battleground.

0:50.2

We don't need another hero or don't be a jerk.

0:54.4

If that doesn't ring a bell yet, you can find thousands of samples of her work on the

0:59.2

internet.

1:00.5

Maybe the fonts and colors remind you of something, the supreme logo, that Instagram filter,

1:06.6

it all started with Barbara Krueger.

1:09.1

But have you seen Krueger's art in person?

1:12.1

She does a lot of installation work these days.

1:14.5

That's a fancy way of saying that her work just kind of consumes entire rooms, huge rooms,

1:21.2

giant walls, big block letters.

1:24.2

Bringing up every inch of every flat surface you can see.

1:28.4

Frazes like belief plus doubt equals sanity.

1:32.6

Cell phones, whose body, whose beliefs.

1:36.8

Her work isn't prescriptivist.

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