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The New Yorker Radio Hour

Director Ari Aster Explains His COVID-Era Western “Eddington”

The New Yorker Radio Hour

WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

News, David, Books, Arts, Storytelling, Wnyc, New, Remnick, News Commentary, Yorker, Politics

4.25.5K Ratings

🗓️ 22 July 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Ari Aster’s neo-noir Western involves a gun-toting sheriff, COVID, the George Floyd protests, and a mysterious A.I. data center. The writer-director talks with Adam Howard.

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0:00.0

This is The New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker.

0:11.4

This is the New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick. The big question of this Trump administration over and over again has been this. Can they really do that?

0:21.2

Can they reinterpret the 14th Amendment?

0:24.3

Can they ignore district court rulings,

0:26.7

dismantle the education department,

0:29.1

revoke Rosie O'Donald's citizenship?

0:32.0

All of us have questions about the administration

0:34.1

and its legal challenges

0:35.3

and how the courts are ruling on them.

0:38.9

So to answer your questions, the New Yorkers legal experts will join us here on the program, constitutional scholar

0:44.7

Jeannie Suk Gerson and columnist Ruth Marcus. Please send us your questions about Trump and the courts

0:51.2

to New Yorker Radio at WNYC.org.

0:56.1

Ruth Marcus and Jeannie Sook-Gerson will join me and will address as many of your questions as we possibly can.

1:02.7

Again, that's New Yorker Radio, one word, New Yorker Radio at WNYC.org.

1:10.2

And tell us where you're writing from, too. I look forward to hearing from you.

1:17.6

We all remember the spring and summer of 2020, whether we like it or not. There was the COVID pandemic in all its losses and a

1:29.3

reckoning with racial violence that led to some of the biggest protests in our history, and there

1:34.0

was also one of the most contentious presidential election races in our time. So some might prefer to

1:39.6

forget that period, and yet it turns out to be bottomless material for a filmmaker named Ari Aster.

1:45.7

In the horror movies Hereditary and Midsamar and the more iconoclastic Bo is Afraid,

1:52.1

Aster is relentless about putting his characters and his audience in a state of anxiety.

1:58.9

Cringe doesn't begin to describe it. Esther's latest film is Eddington, which is set in a state of anxiety. Cringe doesn't begin to describe it. Esther's latest film is Eddington,

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