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This is Recode Media with Peter Kafka.

That is me.

I'm part of the Vox Media Podcast Network here at Vox Media Headquarters in New York City.

If that is relevant to you, if it's not, just ignore it.

It's fine.

One thing you should not ignore, I was out for a little bit.

And my colleague, Kurt Wagner, did an awesome job stepping in for me. He talked to Ryan Hoover for Product Hunt and Jason Citron from Discord. Both of those are very interesting companies. Those are interesting episodes. If you haven't listened, go back and listen to them right now. We'll stop. We'll wait. All right, I'm going to get more back here with Brian Morrissey, very patiently waiting for me to stop talking so he can say something.

Hey, Brian.

Hi, Peter.

Brian Morrissey is Editor-in-Chief of Digidae. Is there a grander title? President and Editor-in-Chief. President and Editor-in-Chief? I usually just go with Editor-Chief. Do we call it Digiday Media or something like that? Media, technically.

All right, we've got all that out of the way.

I think the crossover between listeners to this podcast and consumers of Digiday and listeners of the Digiday podcast, probably 100%. Does that make us rivals? No, we're co-something, something, something. Exactly. It's like a collaboration. Yeah, it'd be weird if you were listening to this podcast and not consuming Digiday in some part because you guys do a kick-ass job covering the ins and outs and minutia and big picture of digital media, right? Yes, that's our mission. Stuff we talk about here, plus occasionally we have a movie director in which you don't do. You're a little more than you. I don't do it. I keep in my lane. You're narrowly focused. But thanks. I am a big admirer of you and your work.

I'm also an admirer of you and your work.

I'm also an admirer of the fact that I emailed you earlier this summer and said, hey, you want to come on? He said, I'd love to, but I'm in Serbia, which is the only time. As I want to do. No one has ever used that excuse to get out of a podcast before. What were you doing in Serbia? My wife is Serbian, so I go to Serbia every now and again.

Because she visits podcast before. What were you doing in Serbia? My wife is Serbian, so I go to Serbia every now and

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