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Hi, welcome to the latest episode of The Weeds, Vox's policy podcast on the Panoply Network.

I'm Matthew Iglesias. Sarah and Ezra are both not available this week, so I'm joined by two

super exciting super special guests, two great colleagues of mine from Vox.com, Brad Plumer and

Julie Ballouz. Hi guys. Hi. Hey, thanks for taking the time to help me out with this show. We didn't

want to skip another episode after we took a week off for Thanksgiving. You know, we know people

out there clamoring clamoring for more weeds, so we had to scare up some extra people and it's

it's going to be great. We may get even wackier, even dorkier than usual, but we're going to delve

into some climate change stuff later. But I really did want to kick things off with a absolutely

fantastic evergreen topic that Julia has written about recently, which is the question of dietary fat.

You know, and this was sort of brought home for me recently, the pediatrician had been

giving my wife and my some advice on things, you know, sort of early starter solid foods,

it would be good to feed to the baby. And I asked about yogurt. And they said, yeah, you know,

yogurt's great, but you should get whole milk yogurt, not low fat yogurt. And so I went to the

store and it's actually surprisingly hard to find. Everybody wants to have the sort of the reduced

fat yogurts. And I assume that's because they are trying to be healthy. I mean, it's certainly

it sounds healthy, right? Being fat is unhealthy. So eating fat sounds pretty unhealthy. But I

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