Quick one. My team tells me we actually have very few reviews relative to the weekly audience

numbers. This is no doubt my fault, as I've always felt a little weird about asking you

to do something for me. But clearly, if you don't ask, you don't get. So if you're enjoying

the show, if it's providing you value, please take 30 seconds and leave a review on Apple

or Spotify. In doing so, you'll help the show rank higher, which means we can continue

to attract the brightest and most trustworthy people in science. My team and I have big

plans for the show where we want to be in 24 months and we need your help to make this

possible. When I first thought about veganism, I thought hippies straight up just like sitting

in a forest, doing LSD, and tendreads, dirty, etc., etc., right? In that conversation

has changed, now we have people in all sorts of different avenues, you have athletes

and stuff that are performing really well, you have celebrities and musicians. And we

have those really popular documentaries that blown up, what the hell. I'll find out

people are vegan, that I've followed on YouTube for a really long time for some other subject

and then I comment and they're like, hey, I just want to let you know, I'm vegan too,

man, that's really cool. And I'm like, see, that's what's up. Veganism everywhere,

and they just regularly ask people, you didn't even know we're vegan. It's just that

a lot of the loud ones, the ones you hear the most, right? Because they're loud. You don't

have a mindset change by someone telling you that you're wrong because your ego just

throws up a wall. And so I feel like at least for me, the best way to change people to

getting interested in veganism, actually turning vegan, it's just to be a normal guide

that they look up to and then I can't. And he's also vegan. He seems pretty normal,

I like him. So maybe I'll try it. That's Brian Turner. And this is the proof podcast.

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