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Beyond Today

Did Trump kill the Kurdish dream?

Beyond Today

BBC

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4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2019

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

The Kurds are an ethnic group living in the north of Syria and in neighbouring Iran, Iraq and Turkey. Since the conflict in Syria started almost nine years ago they’ve been fighting to establish their own state in northern Syria. The US allied with the Kurds to defeat ISIS and supported the Kurdish cause. That was until President Trump announced he was pulling US troops out of Syria leaving the Kurds exposed to the threat of the Turkish army, the Kurds’ political enemy. In this episode we speak to BBC journalists Jiyar Gol and Charlotte Pamment, who have been to Syria to find out what will happen to the Kurds. Presenter: Matthew Price Produced by Heidi Pett Mixed by Weidong Lin and Nicolas Raufast Editor: John Shields.

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0:00.0

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0:06.6

Hello, I'm Matthew Price.

0:08.3

Welcome to Beyond Today from BBC Radio 4.

0:11.6

Every day we ask one big question about one big story.

0:17.0

Today did Trump kill the Kurdish dream?

0:27.0

So it's not just the end of the year, it's the end of the 2010's end of a decade and

0:35.0

one of the stories that is bound to feature in any look back that you see over the

0:40.0

next couple of weeks is how idealistic jihadis were drawn into Syria to fight for

0:46.2

an Islamic caliphate.

0:49.1

But there's another group of idealists that likely won't make it in. They've also been fighting to set up

0:55.7

their own state in Syria and elsewhere in the region. They're kind of the

1:00.1

mirror image of the Islamic State actually. They're a group with a crack unit of

1:04.0

women fighting on the front line. They're the Kurds. An ethnic group living in the north of

1:09.4

Syria and in neighboring Iran, Iraq, Turkey.

1:13.0

Now, since Syria's conflict started almost nine years ago,

1:17.0

they've been fighting to take control in northern Syria.

1:21.0

And the US decided quite early on that they were useful.

1:24.2

They were good fighters, they could help them defeat ISIS.

1:28.2

So America worked with the Kurds, they armed them, they supported them in the war until President Trump a few months ago

1:37.0

announced that he was going to pull US troops out of Syria, leaving the Kurds high and dry.

1:44.0

We have done them a great service,

1:46.6

and we've done a great job for all of them.

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