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Hey, welcome to our program on the line with us, our buddy Phil Itner, the veteran war correspondent, host of the On the Edge podcast.

Phil is on the front lines this week, Phil?

Is that where you are?

No, no, I'm back in Kiev, but I did recently, yeah, no, I did recently go to the front lines,

at least as close to the front lines as you can get, to do more reporting on drone technology and tactics that

the Ukrainians are using along the front line.

Again, I can't get right to what is called the zero line, which is the line of contact,

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