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To the Point

Did Trump get conned by Kim?

To the Point

KCRW

News

4.4583 Ratings

🗓️ 13 June 2018

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Six months after threatening nuclear warfare, “little rocket man” and the “dotard” were talking peace in Singapore. Beyond the hype, did President Trump and Kim Jong Un really mean it? A seasoned diplomat, a UN nuclear weapons inspector and veteran journalists provide contrasting assessments.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello again, I'm Mormon Alney.

0:03.1

First came the handshake in Singapore, seen around the world, then the two heads of state

0:08.4

alone with translators for about 45 minutes. After that, the meeting with staff for a lengthy

0:14.6

lunch and a ceremonial signing. During his subsequent news conference, President Trump characterized

0:20.5

the meeting with Kim Jong-un as both a diplomatic success and a personal triumph.

0:26.6

All I can say is they want to make a deal.

0:29.6

That's what I do. My whole life has been deals. I've done great at it.

0:33.6

And that's what I do.

0:35.6

And I know when somebody wants to deal and I know when somebody

0:39.1

doesn't. A lot of politicians don't. That's not their thing. The Trump White House is accused

0:43.4

by critics and some supporters of conducting high-level diplomacy like reality TV, even including a promotional video.

0:52.0

Two men, two leaders, one destiny, a story about a special moment in time when a man is presented

1:03.0

with one chance that may never be repeated.

1:06.0

That video in a big room played for reporters before the president had his news conference,

1:10.0

and true enough, never to be reported as far as it goes.

1:13.8

Never before has America's head of state met with a counterpart from North Korea.

1:17.9

But the main points of the statement they signed, less than 500 words, have been made before.

1:23.5

Joel Witt is senior fellow at the Stimpsons Center in Washington.

1:26.6

He's founder of the website 38 North, recognition of the 38th parallel, and he's a former U.S. diplomat with experience in negotiating with North Korea.

1:36.2

Welcome to you.

1:37.4

Thank you. Glad to be here.

1:39.3

What about this? Is this, in fact, something never to be repeated? Is it as big a deal as represented by the president and by that video?

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