Welcome back. I'm Ian Masters and this is Background Briefing, available 247 at backgroundbriefing.org.

And joining us now is Rob Reimann, who is the founder and president of the Nexus Institute,

which brings together the world's foremost intellectuals, artists and politicians, to think and talk about humanist questions that really matter.

The Nexus Institute has become one of

Europe's most prestigious organizations to inspire public intellectual debate. He's the

author of the best-selling book, Nobility of Spirit, A Forgotten Ideal, and to Fight Against

This Age, which is about the rise of fascism and how to combat it. And back in 2010, Rob warned then that Gert Wilders is the prototype of contemporary fascism.

Welcome to Background Briefing, Rob Reimann.

Oh, hi.

It's a great pleasure to be with if you were.

Well, thanks for joining us, Rob.

And you warned back in 2010 about Gertvilders, often referred to as the Dutch

Trump.

He has a similar hairstyle.

Of course, hairs dyed peroxide blonde, but there's much more to him.

So let's just give me a portrait of the man that came ahead in the recent Dutch elections.

Well, again, I wrote my essay on the eternal return of fascism because of Willis

and because of at that time, the then prime minister, he's still our prime minister,

Rutter gave the red carpet and made him part of the coalition.

When that happened, I thought, okay, we're dealing with return of fascism because Mr.

Wilders, we can call Trump the American Wilders, because Wilders was ahead of him, is the

incarnation of contemporary fascism because he has all the characteristics.

...