Did the CIA do it? Part II

Science Vs

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🗓️ 19 November 2020

⏱️ 33 minutes

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When a deadly pig virus hit Cuba in 1971, some claimed the CIA was behind it all. But could it be true? In part two of our investigation into the outbreak, we finally hear directly from the CIA — and get to the bottom of what happened. In this episode: ex-CIA Brian Latell, journalist Drew Fetherston, Professor Mary-Louise Penrith and Professor José Manuel Sánchez-Vizcaíno. Please fill out our Science Vs survey! Link here: https://blythet.typeform.com/to/Z7YOM2QM New to the show? Some of our fave episodes are ... Hunting an Invisible Killer: https://gimletmedia.com/shows/science-vs/brhv724 The Mystery of the Man Who Died Twice: https://gimletmedia.com/shows/science-vs/brhod5 Placebo: Can the Mind Cure You? https://gimletmedia.com/shows/science-vs/5whgzd 5G: Welcome to the Revolution? https://gimletmedia.com/shows/science-vs/j4h39x Here’s a link to our transcript: https://bit.ly/2Kn0iSv A huge thanks to Dan Guillemette, Rebecca Ibarra and the team at WNYC's Scattered. This episode was produced by Wendy Zukerman, with help from Nick DelRose, Mathilde Urfalino, Hannah Harris Green, Rose Rimler and Michelle Dang. It was edited by Blythe Terrell and Caitlin Kenney, with help from PJ Vogt. Fact checking by Diane Kelly. Mix and sound design by Peter Leonard. Music written by Peter Leonard, Emma Munger, Bobby Lord and Marcus Bagala. Interpreting by Carmen Graterol and Julia Kaplan. Translation by Silvina Baldermann. Thanks to everyone we got in touch with for this episode including Peter Kornbluh, Professor Piero Gleijeses, Professor Armanda Bastos, Dr. Alexis Albion, Dr. David Williams, Professor Hugh Wilford, Dr. James Lockhart, Professor Louis A. Pérez, Dr. Megan Niederwerder, Steven Aftergood, and Vicki J. Huddleston. And thank you to the Cuban exiles and those who fought in the bay of pigs for speaking to us. A special thanks to the Zukerman family, and Joseph Lavelle Wilson. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello.
0:01.0	Um, I just got this big middle of folder from the CIA.
0:12.9	Why?
0:13.9	This is the sound.
0:15.3	Oh, it's very funny, the font that they use.
0:24.0	I was still expecting like typewriter for some reason.
0:28.1	Hey, Wendy here with Science Vestors from Gimlett.
0:37.7	This week we're finding out whether the CIA released a deadly pig virus into Cuba in 1971,
0:44.4	leading to the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of pigs that would have otherwise been used
0:48.4	for food.
0:50.0	If you haven't listened to last week's episode, go back and do that now.
0:54.0	We talked about the fact that the CIA was known to be meddling in Cuba at this time and
0:59.0	that they had this virus, African swine fever, on hand.
1:02.9	Today, I'm on the phone with my editor, Blithe Tarell, opening up a big envelope from the
1:08.9	CIA.
1:09.9	Huh.
1:10.9	All right.
1:11.9	It says, dear Miss Zuckerman, this is a final response to your 12th of August 2020
1:18.9	for your request.
1:19.9	So I have a, this is the final.
1:21.9	They're like, don't, don't, don't freaking call us again.
1:24.7	Don't get back to us.
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