Did the Cathars Guard the Holy Grail?
Psychic Teachers
Samantha Fey
4.8 • 2.4K Ratings
🗓️ 10 November 2025
⏱️ 54 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to psychic teachers. I'm your host, Deb Bowen. |
| 0:15.9 | And I'm Samantha Faye. And we are so excited to talk to you. This week, We aired an episode about Gnosticism. And we've |
| 0:23.7 | had a lot of emails from you asking us to do a similar episode on the Cothers. I'm not even sure |
| 0:30.6 | I'm pronouncing it correctly, but we'll get to that. Well, I would say Cathars. |
| 0:35.3 | Cathars. Okay. I don't know. We'll go with that. All right, Cathars. Cathars. Okay. |
| 0:38.6 | We'll go with that. |
| 0:39.6 | All right, Cathars. |
| 0:41.7 | What a rabbit hole. |
| 0:49.1 | Even now, after considerable research, I'm not sure who or what the cathars were. |
| 0:57.0 | I understand that some stuff about who they were and how they were persecuted and executed, |
| 0:59.2 | and it makes my heart hurt. |
| 1:03.5 | However, there are many aspects of their stories to be considered. |
| 1:04.7 | So here we go. |
| 1:11.8 | There's just one problem in discussing the Cathars and their horrific fate at the hands of the Catholic Church, they might not have existed as we now conceive them. |
| 1:16.6 | The Church may have invented an entire sect of peoples who were, in fact, devout Catholics |
| 1:21.6 | whose practices were just outside the norm of the church at the time, and whose annihilation |
| 1:26.9 | was a precursor to the even more horrific |
| 1:29.5 | crusades to come. This could be because the word cathar is actually a general term, referring |
| 1:36.2 | to a bunch of different sex. They didn't have one unified leader or even one unified doctrine |
| 1:43.4 | of teaching. So Chris O'Brien, who wrote in the Los Angeles Times in 2018, says this. |
| 1:50.6 | The Cathar defenders pose a question to the skeptics. |
| 1:54.9 | If the Crusades was not about quashing this religious movement, |
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