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Did ObamaCare Ruling Unleash a Taxing Leviathan?

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🗓️ 6 July 2012

⏱️ 7 minutes

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0:00.0

This is a Cato special podcast. I'm Caleb Brown. The Supreme Court's

0:08.0

curious ruling on the Affordable Care Act has left many people wondering if the

0:11.6

federal government's taxing power has been

0:13.5

unleashed to compel people to buy or die.

0:17.2

Ilia Shapiro, senior fellow in constitutional studies at the Cato Institute, argues

0:21.2

the court did no such thing.

0:25.8

Randy Barnett, who I think is more positive on the Obamacare ruling

0:30.5

than a lot of libertarians and conservatives makes this note which is

0:35.7

Obamacare is a tax because the Supreme Court rewrote the law to make it one.

0:40.2

The Supreme Court did not uphold Obamacare's individual insurance mandate as a tax.

0:47.0

And that is a very subtle distinction.

0:50.2

As you see it, what does that mean? It's very subtle for purposes of the law, and lots of lawyers will spill lots of ink

0:56.4

and briefs going forward.

0:58.4

But what it means for practical purposes is another way of saying that Chief Justice Roberts rewrote the law to

1:04.8

enable to find it constitutional. He didn't find it constitutional as is. He did not

1:09.8

adopt the arguments made about the taxing power that the government made or that liberal

1:15.4

law professors made.

1:16.4

He essentially reconstrude what was in the statutory text in order to save it using his conception of the taxing power.

1:25.6

Specifically, he talks about the size of the tax relative to the activity that the federal government would like you to be involved in in this case

1:35.7

purchasing insurance and in reading the language I thought it was just sort of wishy-washy

1:41.3

and mealy mouth saying well if it's not too big the tax then it's

1:46.1

fine but if it is big then it's unconstitutional that's exactly right if the

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