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Today, Explained

Did diversity ever work ... at work?

Today, Explained

Vox

Daily News, Politics, News

4.49.5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 March 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

There's a backlash against corporate DEI efforts, and it’s not just from the right. It's everywhere. What does that mean for employees? This episode was produced by Hady Mawajdeh, edited by Miranda Kennedy, fact-checked by Melissa Hirsch, mixed by Patrick Boyd, and hosted by Jonquilyn Hill. Photo credit: jeffbergen for Getty Images. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We've ended the tyranny of so-called diversity, equity, and inclusion policies.

0:52.2

White people are the largest group of people that believe that they're discriminated against.

0:56.8

Everyone was like, this is a meritocracy.

0:58.9

I never quite felt that I was a beneficiary of the so-called meritocracy.

1:09.0

Hey, y'all. I'm John Gwynne Hill, and this is Explain It to Me, your hotline for the questions that matter most to you.

1:20.2

You've reached the Explain It to Me hotline. You've got questions. We've got answers.

1:26.6

Hi, my name is M, And when I hear about workplace and government DEI initiative being under attack by the Trump administration, I, as a clear person, feel deeply conflicted.

1:41.3

On the one hand, I believe that it's incredibly important that structural

1:45.2

inequalities and workplaces should be resolved, but I also feel deeply othered by companies

1:52.5

with a sensibly strong DEI programs and policies. I found that the programs are often

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