Who's singing when you're writing because?

Well, sadly, it's me.

I'm always oriented to, I gotta sing my own song.

Yeah.

You look, you're a great singer.

I mean, you are a song assassin.

I love it. I love that. Is it 1500 songs at this point? You're up in Irving Berlin territory of first songs, Ruth. That's what the internet says. Wow. You know, the data that matters is, does it make you, the hair on your arm stand up

because it makes you feel something.

So, I'm intrigued about the cave.

Do you have a name? They hear on your arm stand up because it make you feel something.

So, I'm intrigued about the cave. Do you have a name for the cave? I mean, I didn't name it the cave. So it's a place I've been writing. But what do you call it? I'm trying to call it my disgusting writing room. I don't know. I mean, you know, Robert Hilburn, one time, wrote an article on what used to be called the calendar. that was a magazine, it was a really long time ago. And he called it the cave.

And so, but I never called it the...

I don't call it anything really.

Just called the calendar. It was a magazine. It was a really long time ago. And he called it the cave.

And so, but I never called it the thing.

I don't call it anything really.

It's called my room. I've had it for almost 40 years. I've seen the pictures. Yeah, it's kind of, I mean, I like it in there. I was there today. I start every day there, you know? What time do you start every day?

About nine, 11 or nine.

And is it, okay, what's your normal work day?

Because I just, I just, you know, my normal work days,

I show up like around nine o'clock and just start writing. I'm like nine, a little after nine. And is it, okay, what's your normal workday? Because I just, I just, you know,

my normal workday is I show up like around nine o'clock

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