Dialogue 4: Surrendering to the Ground

Turning to the Mystics with James Finley

Center for Action and Contemplation

Spirituality, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 30 May 2023

⏱️ 64 minutes

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This is the fourth dialogue that focuses on the mystic Meister Eckhart. In this episode, Jim and Kirsten discuss Session 4, the last session of the season, and Eckhart's theme around surrendering to the ground. Resources: The transcript for this episode can be found here. Jim's reading list for Meister Eckhart can be found here. Connect with us: Have a question you'd like Jim or Kirsten to answer about Meister Eckhart? Email us: podcasts@cac.org or leave us voicemail. This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at https://cac.org/support-cac/podcasts/ Thank you!

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0:00.0	How do you tell the story of your inner journey? Join James Finley for the Healing Stories online
0:06.0	retreat. Saturday, August 26th from 9-5 Pacific. Inspired by his memoir, The Healing Path,
0:14.4	Jim offers guided reflections to help you become more conscious of the thread of your own sacred
0:20.5	journey. The event will be recorded and all registered will have access to the replay.
0:26.4	Register today at cac.org-healing-retreat. That's cac.org slash h-e-a-l-i-n-g-r-e-t-r-e-a-t.
0:41.4	You're listening to a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation. To learn more,
0:46.3	visit cac.org. Greetings, I'm Jim Finley. And I'm Kirsten Oates. Welcome to Turning to the Mistakes.
1:04.4	Welcome everyone to season seven of Turning to the Mistics, where we're turning to
1:09.7	Meister Eckert, the German Mystic. And I'm here with Jim to unpack his beautiful session from
1:18.7	last week. And welcome Jim. Thank you. Glad to be with you again. So there's a lot to unpack
1:26.2	from the last session. And what I heard in the session was you describing that if we follow this
1:37.2	path of detachment that Meister Eckert outlines, in this last session you went through
1:42.9	these states of consciousness that we might find ourselves kind of being brought into.
1:50.9	And these are states of experiencing ourselves in God, experiencing reality as it really is.
1:58.5	And I thought perhaps what might be helpful today is to go through the states of consciousness
2:06.3	and describe them a little. And just tell me, Jim, if these are the four if I'm headed in the right
2:11.8	direction. So we start with dissimilarity. Yes. Next we move into similarity. Right.
2:20.8	Then identity. Yes. And then break through into the Godhead. That's correct. Okay. Great. So we'll go
2:27.6	through those today. But it seems to make no sense to start going through the path of detachment and
2:34.4	in these states of consciousness without grounding ourselves in Eckert's worldview. Right.
2:41.3	The core foundation of this path. So perhaps we might just do a little reminder of that.
2:47.9	That'd be a good place to start. And I want to share also that those four stages, one of the key
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