The following talk was given at the Insight Meditation Center in Redwood City, California.

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Okay. So, this friend mentioned him before a long time

practitioner and it's really it's kind of like he's living in a darma talk.

He's just inspiring actually, it's like always actively working with something in his practice and so whenever we talk it's like he's like

midway into like a really good darma talk he's giving to himself then he just

starts giving it to me and he's he's

persuasive and I remember one conversation he was like, you know, we say to everybody let go and open to a niche,

open to uncertainty, comprehend suffering, comprehend Dukka, you know, he said, it's too much, it's just too much. We need to teach pleasure. I'm in this path of pleasure right now.

And he wasn't talking about like hedonism exactly, but the path is indeed about a certain kind of pleasure we call happiness peace.

There is such a thing as the wholesome pleasant,

wholesome pleasant, the pleasure that leads

not to more craving, but to actually to well-being, to satiety, like we're full. You know, craving never

culminates in satiety but in a cycle and so I wanted to speak a little bit just about the kind of like some of the different species of

darma pleasure, but more centrally, what are the functions of darma pleasure?

What are the functions of Darmap pleasure?

So the species, the species of Darmap pleasure,

you know, many things we could, you know, things we could you know go on forever probably but few that come to mind for me

just the pleasure of having a path, that there is a path that has been walked by other

the darma ancestors before us, that there's a path,

it's actually a path that someone has made sense

of the intensity of the human condition.

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