The following talk was given at the Insight Meditation Center in Redwood City, California.

Please visit our website at audioderma.org. So suffering in the end of suffering.

Freedom from fixed views. The natural functioning of our life flowing freely through us, sometimes taking the form of love or care or compassion, all leading to or supporting or pointing to

liberation and the path of liberation

a path that liberates us from suffering, and brings at the end of

suffering. So these are the foundations of the core teachings that I believe I base my

teachings on and my practice on my life on. And so today the topic is liberation and the path to liberation. And what's

delightful in this tradition is that,

is the principle that before practice moves continuously.

After liberation there is practice.

That the practice moves continuously through us.

Even the Buddha after he was fully awakened

would go in the forest to practice meditation.

And they... this meditation. And so in a sense the difference between before and after an experience

of awakening or liberation,

it doesn't matter that much.

What matters is that we practice,

that the practice is sincere

and the founder of San Francisco Center Suzuki Roshi made this now often

referred to a statement that someone asked him,

if I do Zen, well I become enlightened.

And he replied was,

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