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Dharmette: Buddha Before Buddhism (5 of 5) Training

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Religion & Spirituality, Vipassana, Buddhist, Theravada, Buddhism, Meditation, Buddha, Dhamma, Retreat, Metta, Insight, Dharma

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🗓️ 6 December 2024

⏱️ 16 minutes

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This talk was given by Gil Fronsdal on 2024.12.06 at the Insight Meditation Center in Redwood City, CA. ******* Video of this talk is available at: https://www.youtube.com/live/ONaLSm4ycMg?si=BE024sag-PdQ7So7&t=1993. ******* For more talks like this, visit AudioDharma.org ******* If you have enjoyed this talk, please consider supporting AudioDharma with a donation at https://www.audiodharma.org/donate/. ******* This talk is licensed by a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 4.0 License

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0:00.0

The following talk was given at the Insight Meditation Center in Redwood City, California.

0:06.0

Please visit our website at adioderma.org.

0:10.0

So here I am at IRC.

0:13.0

Very happy to be here with two of the former or present resident volunteers who is sitting here with us and I very happy to be here.

0:26.4

And this is a concluding now talk on the themes from this ancient Buddhist text.

0:34.4

As I keep saying, some scholars believe it's the oldest teaching in Buddhism,

0:39.7

the Buddha's first teachings, perhaps. And in the appendix of the book, I go into some

0:46.1

of the reasons people think this and the evidence for that. And that there are three, four themes that I've selected out of this. And it's perhaps

0:58.7

these themes are things that are subjective to me, especially this last one we're going to do

1:05.0

today. So the first one is, it's really clear in the text that's repeated over and over again,

1:10.6

this idea of not clinging to any kind of views and not holding some religious views as being better than others or more superior or ultimate.

1:20.2

Just not getting involved in that comparison at all and not depending on any religious doctrine beliefs, but rather depending on what we can know and see directly for ourselves.

1:33.3

And in doing so, the second theme, not clinging to sensual desires,

1:40.3

because we know and see the downside of that.

1:43.3

We know and see for ourselves how we're limited by the attachment to sensual desires.

1:51.2

So again, it's not because someone tells us there's a rule that you should let go of sensual desires,

1:58.4

but it's to really have understood for oneself, seen and known for oneself,

2:05.1

that sensual desire being caught in them is not beneficial. And it's actually better not to be

2:11.5

caught in them. So it's not a doctrine here that is presenting authority like this is what you should do.

2:19.3

It's a teaching about developing your own capacity to know and see for yourself.

2:25.7

And those two verbs, knowing and seeing, are the most common kind of description of the practice that is in this text.

2:36.0

And then the description, the third theme was the descriptions of this age. And those descriptions, like for example, of

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