All right, everybody, welcome back to the forward podcast.

I'm your host, Lance Armstrong.

I know these are few and far between this day and age.

It's a little crazy.

Also in this day and age, the Zoom day and age, I really have no excuse.

My guest today, my host, I'm the host, my guest today is Dehani Jones.

I've known Dehani, honey gosh 10 plus years started the

University of Michigan as a linebacker went on to play in the league for 10 years

but has become so much more than that.

In the African American community,

he's a true, true leader in every sense of the word.

He's parlayed his success on the football field to so many other things, whether it's the financial

markets, television career, and he's just one of the most charitable some bitches you'll ever know.

It was a real honor to have him on clearly a lot to talk about in this day and age

with everything going on right on the heels of a global pandemic which we're still dealing with. But the

discussion around race in our country,

especially something near and dear to his heart.

You know, his words, I gotta tell you,

this is one of my longer ones,

maybe the longest one I've ever done and I did not want to stop

So if you're just listening right now deciding if you listen

This this was maybe the coolest 90 minutes I've had in a long time so give it a listen.

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