All right, everybody, welcome back to the Forward Podcast.

My guest this week is Chris Fowler.

This is a guide that I first met, oh man, I gotta think about this, I met Fowler in

probably 1987. So it's been a long time he was

the host of a show on ESPN ESPN was just a small we think of the ESPN now is like you

know the major network which it is of course this back in the day this was a very

small cable channel he was on a show called Scholastic Sports America that featured a bunch of

up-and-coming young athletes I I was on there, Janet Evans was on there,

Emmit Smith, Alonzo Morning, etc, etc. So Fowler would travel the country and interview

and sort of profile these young athletes and I met him way back in in the day and of

course his career went to be to the places that it is today which is kind of

legendary and we've maintained this relationship.

He came to most of the tours that I won.

He's been a great friend, a great mentor through it all quite frankly and so great

to catch up with him in quarantine this is one you know we had to do

via Zoom which is sort of non-traditional for us but

get into a lot of things that frankly I didn't think he would want to go there on how we

compensate college student athletes you know the dog the talk of him and Kirk Herb Street moving over and also calling the

Monday night football game which I think is huge news that that just the speculation

around that just came out he answers all these questions and so and also gets into some of his stuff that he's been working on. I didn't know that he was

had jumped into Wim Hof's breathing techniques. He's up to a three minute breath hold, kind of talks about that and what that does to the body and the mind. Fascinating conversation, so I really appreciate Chris coming on. Before we get into it, just a big shout out to everybody pitching in here

every week I talk about doctors and nurses and

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