Welcome to the Wheelbarrow Profits Podcast, where you get multi-family investing made real.

Learn from top players in the real estate investment world as they share their secrets with you

and discover proven strategies on apartment investing that actually work.

To learn more about Wheelbarrow Profits, visit j Jake and Gino.com.

Your one-stop shop for everything, multi-family.

Now to your host, Jake and Gino.

Hello, everybody.

This is Jake Stenziana, host, the Wheelbarrow Provents podcast,

here with my co-host, the multifamily mentor,

the coach, the chef, the father of six,

the best-selling author, the G-Dady.

Gio Barbro, Gino, how's going? Jake, I'm doing good. You like the shirt today? Jake is popping. 80 degrees in New York. I'm ready to go, bro. Purple passion, brother, man. Purple passion. Today's guest is Rod

Santa Massimo. Rod is best selling author, consultant, and founder of the Massimo group, which was founded in 2008 to provide

formal coaching to commercial real estate brokers.

Most recently, the group has extended its reach to offer an online training platform focused on building personnel and team businesses.

So further ado, Rod, welcome to the show.

Gentlemen, thank you so much for having me. It's my pleasure.

Hey, it's our pleasure, and let's get this thing kicked off.

Tell us about your real estate background and how you got started.

You know, my dad was a consultant and owner's rep in the commercial world after being an architect.

And so the first real estate job was being a gopher on a construction company, you know,

being the guy told me what to do and pick up the crap and just sit there and sweep and shut

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