Developer betas, iPhone 17, and the future of Apple Intelligence, on the AppleInsider Podcast.
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ποΈ 8 August 2025
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Summary
A fifth developer beta is out for iPhone, iPad, and Mac, while the new iPhone 17 launch date has leaked, and Apple tells its staff it's serious about AI, on the AppleInsider Podcast.
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Links from the Show:
- New in iOS 26 beta 5: Camera and Mail toggles, Apple Watch display leak, more
- macOS 26 says goodbye to the classic hard drive icon
- Apple has sold 3 billion iPhones since 2007
- All hands on deck: Tim Cook, Craig Federighi address Apple employees on AI, Siri
- Siri may get Chat GPT-like search powers driven by a new Apple team
- Google mocks Apple's AI delays while standing in a graveyard of late and abandoned products
- This time, the iPhone 17 Air battery may have actually been leaked
- iPhone 17 launch date may have been leaked by German wireless carriers
- Apple's existing U.S. manufacturing partners main beneficiaries of new $100B investment
- Apple's $100 billion investment has almost nothing to do with US iPhone manufacturing
- Apple CEO Tim Cook gifts President Trump gold & glass commemorative plaque
- Apple exempt from 100% semiconductor tariffs, thanks to its $100B U.S. investment
- Made-in-America iPhone not happening anytime soon & Trump seems okay with that
- Wokyis M5 dock review: Mac Plus looks, M4 Mac mini performance
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- (00:00) - Intro
- (00:27) - Beta 5
- (24:56) - All-Hands meeting
- (32:37) - Siri Answers
- (40:50) - Perplexity
- (51:19) - iPhone 17 launch date
- (58:49) - Plaque
- (01:04:51) - Controversy Corner
- (01:13:19) - Wokyis M5
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, welcome to the Apple Inside a podcast. I'm William Gallagher. I'm |
| 0:11.0 | sponsor this week is Oracle and I'm joined as ever by Wesley Hilliard. And now, we need to talk |
| 0:17.1 | faster this week, I think, because lots have been going on. Let's start with, how are you |
| 0:22.4 | doing? How are you coping with this torrent of news and new beaters and everything? Doing fine. Yeah, |
| 0:28.4 | I could do my 1.5 speed voice, see if that works out. I don't think anyone would enjoy it. No, |
| 0:35.6 | we're on beta 5, which historically the odd numbers have been more stable. Don't ask me why. That's just how it works. That's the science. Oh, yeah, I didn't know that. That's like the Star Trek films. Uh, the odd ones were better than the evens. Okay. You might dispute that there's a much of a gap between the two, But okay. Okay. So hang on, which way around |
| 0:56.1 | is it? Odd is good? Should I upgrade a beta five? Of course. I mean, especially this late |
| 1:01.7 | the season, I think it's smart to go ahead and just upgrade. Wait, maybe a few minutes. |
| 1:05.7 | Make sure there's nothing on fire, but there's been no reports. Seems fine. Everything's pretty stable on my end. |
| 1:12.1 | I don't even think I've got a boot loop since I've installed the beta this time, |
| 1:15.8 | which is great because I've been getting them frequently on my iPhone anyway. |
| 1:22.0 | They added toggle to change the camera switcher, |
| 1:29.9 | which everyone's been complaining about because it's, I'm going to make a video game reference, William. So if you're playing a video |
| 1:35.4 | game that involves flying, you're flying a vehicle, are you aware that there are two ways |
| 1:41.9 | to control that flying vehicle with a joystick? |
| 1:46.2 | No. |
| 1:47.3 | It's just like a collective and... |
| 1:50.0 | It's like controlling it in real life, right? |
| 1:52.4 | So if you press down on the joystick, like press up on the joystick, |
| 1:57.2 | which direction does the plane go, the nose of the plane? |
| 2:01.7 | Well, I'm thinking helicopters, you would tilt forward to go fast, so the nose would go down in order to move faster. |
| 2:08.7 | Is that what we're looking, or is this? |
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