Desire (Part 1)

Restore The Glory Podcast

Jake Khym

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.9 • 971 Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

This week, Jake and Bob begin a two part series on desire and how it relates to sin. They discuss how sin arises from a desire for good and how our woundedness shapes these patterns of sin. Rather than suppressing our desires, Jake and Bob reflect on the goodness of desire and the importance of rightly ordering it through prayer. Through personal stories and movie references, they end by walking you through practical ways to identify the holy desires beneath your struggles.

Key Points:

Behind every disordered desire is a holy desire, an unmet need, an unhealed wound, and a hidden pattern of sin.
Sin arises from a desire for the good
Every time we experiencing longing, we are experiencing a desire for God
To stop patterns of sin, we must first recognize the underlying desire
Self reliance is the false belief that the satisfaction of our deepest desires is completely up to us.
Desire is an essential element of the Christian life.
God desires our wholehearted devotion and places desire on our hearts so we seek and love Him
Movies, music, and stories can reveal and awaken our deepest desires. They show us what moves our hearts and what we deeply long for.

Resources:

Unwanted: How Our Sexual Brokenness Reveals Our Way to Healing by Jay Stringer
One Desire by Hillsong Worship

Chapters:

00:00:00 Introduction

00:03:23 Sin Arises from a Desire for Good

00:11:32 Self-Reliance, Deadly Wounds, and the Anatomy of a Wound

00:16:52 We Cannot Escape Our Desire for God

00:20:29 The Integration of Virtue and Desire

00:22:56 The Battle of Desire

00:32:14 Awakening or Killing Right Desire

00:36:13 Can Movies Reactivate Desire?

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0:00.0	Welcome to Restore the Glory podcast. My name is Jake Kim.
0:07.4	And I'm Bob Schutz.
0:09.0	We're two former Catholic therapists exploring the journey of healing through the integration
0:13.6	of faith and psychology.
0:15.0	And whether you're new to the podcast or you've been with us for a while, we're delighted
0:19.2	you're here.
0:20.3	All right, Bob. let's dive in.
0:24.4	So, Bob, last episode, we had a great chat with Father Matthew Rowling about Aquinas,
0:31.0	and healing, a philosophy, et cetera, and we ended with this reflection and we both were moved by and thought we'd take it a bit further.
0:40.2	And it's basically this kind of link between desire, sin, the good, et cetera.
0:49.3	So we're starting now here a series on desire.
0:52.5	We have two-part series, one today, and then next episode
0:56.8	we're bringing on, I'm really excited to bring on Dr. Shane Owens, who's an expert in St. Augustine
1:03.1	and has a book on him and all of that. So just linking all these concepts together. But anything
1:08.5	that strikes you or comes up for you with regard to
1:11.0	desire last episode and where we're headed?
1:14.2	Yeah, I really like the framing that he did for Aquinas, that desire and fear are kind of the central
1:20.9	orienting concepts. And, you know, just brought me right back to the catechism and to the
1:27.3	course we do together
1:28.5	with the priest on holy desire. And so this whole topic of desire is one that's exciting to me.
1:35.3	How about you?
1:36.3	Yeah, the conversation, just the Aquinas quote alone has always fascinated me because of the, you know,
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