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post some of our favorite episodes. This one was originally posted in December of 2015. This is Design Matters with Debbie Milman from Design Observer.com.

This is the 10th anniversary of the podcast, 10 years of designers and other creative types

talking about what they do, how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking

about. On this podcast, Debbie Belmont talks with Type Designer Tobias Frere Jones, about his career

and about why typefaces are like the air we breathe.

The stretch of time between when you wake up

and when you first interact with some piece of type that someone has drawn

is probably only a couple of seconds.

Here's Debbie Millman.

If you read the New York Times magazine or The Boston Globe,

you've probably seen his work.

Same if you read Martha Stewart Living, Esquire, or GQ. Basically, if you read

magazines or books or catalogs, you've probably come across a typeface designed by Tobias Freer Jones.

He has designed over 800 of them for clients like the Cooper Hewitt, National Design

Museum, and Nike.

He joins me today at the School of Visual Arts

in New York City to talk about his life

and to share a big announcement.

Tobias Frere Jones, welcome to Design Matters.

Thanks for having me.

Tobias, I understand you are the great-grandson of the writer Edgar Wallace who wrote the screenplay

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