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A new season of Design Matters begins in a few weeks.

In the meantime, we're replaying some interviews from several years back.

This one was recorded in 2010.

This is Design Matters with Debbie Millman from Design Observer.com.com. On this program Debbie Millman talks with Marion Banches

about her daring typography and her highly ornamental designs.

In graphic design, we're taught that we're supposed to focus on this message of the client.

And you're supposed to get that across as quickly and effortlessly as possible so that people get it and move on.

And I'm trying to do just the opposite.

Here's Debbie Melman.

She started out as a book type setter and eventually in 1994 opened up her own design firm.

But in 2003, Marion Banches left all of that behind and began experimenting with work that was highly personal,

obsessive, and sometimes as she puts it, just plain weird.

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