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This archival episode of Design Matters was recorded in December 2016.

This is Design matters with Debbie Millman from Design Observer.com.

For 11 years now, Debbie Millman has been talking with designers and other

creative types about what they do, how they got to be who they are and what they're

thinking about. On this podcast, Debbie Millman talks with Gail Bickler about

magazine design and the role of the magazine cover in the digital age.

Covers I think are making the rounds in social media often before the magazine even comes.

They're like a little piece of art that people pass around.

Here's Debbie Milman.

You never know quite what you're going to get

when you open up the New York Times magazine.

Great columns, articles and photos, yes, but the design is what really keeps

readers on their toes. In one issue this year, the type was all sideways, so you read it like a scroll.

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