There was this gay and lesbian sub-culture happening in the...

You know, it's just like I was not a Mitch fest person and I sort of wish I went.

I mean, at any moment, we will all be disabled.

Whether it's from a virus or a slip in the bathtub.

It's just part of who we are.

You know, and no one says, I'm black, you know.

From the TED Audio Collective, this is Design Matters with Debbie Milman.

For 17 years, Debbie Milman has been talking with designers and other creative people about what they do,

how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about and working on.

On this episode in celebration of gay pride month, we're going to hear excerpts from interviews

that have touched on sexual identity.

We'll hear from graphic novelist Allison Bechtel, poet Arlene Miles,

and writer Kenny Freeze and Sy Jones.

There's another podcast you might enjoy.

It's called Am I Normal from the TED Audio Collective.

It's back with a new mini-series all about the stories behind the statistics.

What does adulthood mean in a place where more than three quarters of people

between ages 18 and 35 live with their parents?

What defines joy when you live in one of the top ranked countries for happiness?

Here from the people that make up every interesting data point.

Listen to Am I Normal, wherever you get your podcasts?

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