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Quillette Podcast

Desexing the Language of Motherhood

Quillette Podcast

Quillette

Politics, Science, Society & Culture, News, News Commentary

4.4 • 929 Ratings

🗓️ 9 October 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Managing Editor Iona Italia talks to Dr Karleen Gribble, who works in the field of maternal and infant health, on the impacts of desexed language on women’s healthcare and wellbeing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Quillette podcast, hosted on alternate weeks by me, Jonathan Kay, and by Iona Italia.

0:09.8

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0:17.1

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0:25.6

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0:29.9

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0:33.0

Welcome to the Quillette podcast.

0:36.4

My guest this week is Carleen Gribble. Carleen Gribble is an adjunct professor in the School of Nursing Midwifery at Western Sydney University.

0:43.3

Her research focuses on breastfeeding, particularly in situations for diversity,

0:50.3

and she is a strong champion of the importance of mothers to their newborn infants.

0:57.0

I'll be talking to Carline about her article,

1:01.0

The D-Sexing of Language in Women's Health Research and Care,

1:05.0

a story of marginalisation of science, cultural imperialism, and abuse of power.

1:13.8

This essay is a contribution to the volume,

1:18.6

The War on Science, 39 renowned scientists and scholars speak out about current threats to free speech, open inquiry and the scientific process,

1:23.9

edited by Lawrence Krause.

1:26.3

I hope you enjoy my interview with Carleen Gribble.

1:32.4

I think here's a good place to start, which is that you talk about,

1:37.5

you give a list of alternative words that people have used

1:43.6

in relation to female reproduction, in health literature and

1:48.5

communication, instead of the word woman. This is taken from an author called Millie Hill

1:54.3

and her blog, which is called The Word is Woman, a really great title of the blog.

2:03.9

And here are some of the replacement terms.

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