Hello, this is Everything else, the FT Culture Podcast.

I'm Gris, commissioning arts editor.

Coming up on today's show, I'll be joined by the leading Black Lives Matter activist Dorey McKesson,

whose book, On the Other Side of Freedom, Race and Justice in a Divided America, has just been published.

And later on, I'll be joined by my colleague, the writer India Ross, and by our boss, FT Weekend editor, Alec Russell.

We'll be discussing Game of Thrones, why we should

care about it, and what its legacy might be in the changing landscape of TV.

So police violence against the black community, particularly in the US, has been high on the

news agenda in recent years.

When I was doing research for this podcast, I didn't realise that the American police

killed around 1,200 people a year, which is a staggering number, and a disproportionate

number of those people are African American.

The Black Lives Matter movement sprang up almost five years ago now

in order to draw attention to and to counteract this kind of violence.

And Dorey McCesson is one of the most prominent members of the movement.

He's got one million followers on Twitter, one of whom is Beyonce, who of course only follows 10 people.

He's also the host of the podcast, Pod Save America, and now the author

of a book, which is called On the Other Side of Freedom. But DeRae wasn't actually always an

activist. Until 2014, he'd worked with children, first as a teacher and then as a high school

administrator. But on the 9th of August that year, the 18-year-old Michael Brown was shot and killed by a police

officer in Ferguson, and protests started to build in the streets.

Dorei joins me now.

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