Hello, this is Patty Davis. I'm a psychic medium and intuitive, and I'm coming to you from

Humboldt County, which is in Northern California, where the redwood trees meet the ocean.

Aloha. My name is Jude Lynch, and I am a psychic intuitive energy healer, healing from the

island of Kauai, the Garden Island of the Hawaiian Island Chains. Welcome to Spirit Speakers podcast, where we meet to discuss a variety of topics from two different psychic vantage points.

Aloha, this is Jude, and today Patty and I are going to be talking to you about densities and dimensions. Now, we use

these words to describe varying states of frequency. And depending on what density or dimension we're in,

we will have a different experience. Now, this is a very vast and complex and challenging topic to discuss.

Part of the reason why is most of what we're trying to describe to you

exist beyond our normal everyday perceptions.

And there are many schools of thought as far as how many levels, how many dimensions, and depending on what you've heard,

there might be different scaling systems, ways of measuring and or defining what dimension

or density you're experiencing. And because this is such a broad topic, Patty and I likely differ on some of our

viewpoints when it comes to this topic, but it'll be interesting to see how this conversation

unfolds and where we align and where we might really see things differently. So I'll just

start out by saying that when it comes to the terms density and dimensions,

I see them as two separate things.

I see density as simply put a state of consciousness.

I perceive dimensions to be actual places or locations that have its own set of rules or that has its own specific

unique quality that makes it that dimension. Sort of like how we can go visit a different country

with a different culture. And if we're on the Western Hemisphere, Eastern Hemisphere, we can look

around us and kind of have a generalized sense of where we are. I see dimensions as being

very similar to this. Patty, before we start, do you have any specific variance between how you see

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