Welcome to Glad We Had This Chat with me, Caroline Hireens. It's your one-stop shop for all things,

skincare, beauty and beyond. My guest this week is one of the most beloved figures in the British

entertainment industry, with a television career that has spanned several decades, her authenticity,

humour and ability to connect with audiences has led to her becoming a household name that we all know

and love. I am so excited to welcome to the pod, my mate, Denise Welch.

Hi, how are you? I'm good, thank you. I had a terrible night's sleep. Apparently we had

massive thunder and lightning storms last night. Wasn't aware. Did you hear them?

No.

It was the worst thunder and lightning we've ever had apparently in four million years.

Didn't hear a thing. I was a bit jet lag though, so I was out cold and the night before. Right. I can't do it, Denise. I'm never doing a red eye again. I can't do it. It's just useless. ridiculous and yet my dad before he died we'd take him to Los Angeles with us he was was 83 and he'd come back and go, it's all in the bloody mind, this jet lag. I've been at five parties this week and I'm going to another one. And I am absolutely hanging for a fortnight. I can't do it. I can't do it. Welcome. This lot of jumping in fur saying, the team are here, we're asking earlier. and they would like to know, how did we meet? How we meet how did we meet it was twitter it was twitter and then i gate crashed the set of loose women one day

well we we got talking during the pandemic and that's how we sort of first made contact with each other

i was particularly vocal about some lockdown stuff and we got

talking and then we became Instagram pals and then eventually we decided to go for lunch.

We went for breakfast. We went for breakfast and then we both bonded over the amount of butter and salt that we enjoy. And we both, yeah, we bonded over the amount of, you know, when they bring that. Because to me, you go, can I have toast and butter please? So they bring you two pieces of toast. And then this teeny little. An inch of butter, which you and I covers a corner. Yeah. And we bonded over that. Then realized we were both ADHD. Yeah. Because we bonded. And then, of course, your son being my son's number one fan, which I hadn't been aware of. And that was the, that was the start of the, of the friendship. And you turning to me and going when I said, I'm sorry, can I have another half pound of butter and where the salt seller doesn't work? And you were like, oh, we're going to be best friends. Oh, we're going to be total best friends. And then we continue to send each other butter memes. Butter memes. Yeah, title of my new cookbook, butter and salt. And then we went to the gig in January, It was just like nearly 18 months ago. Oh, when we went to Mattie's gig at Brighton.

And they came on stage and dan burst into tears

and i went you got one next to you now well no but that but before before that remember

we were walking through the crowds and obviously at a 1975 gig i get i get. Even with people who don't know me off the

telly, they know me as Matt's mum. So we were walking through the crowd and people were getting

a bit lairy and Dan held my hand. I said, Dan, do you want Dan? And you went, yes, please. So Dan,

Dan held my hand through the crowd, which then made it onto TikTok, and Dan became known as hot tattoo guy.

Hot tattooed man. Yes, hot tattoo guy. And then when he'd go to the gigs, they'd go, oh my God, there's hot tattooed guy. Yeah, mental. And then without knowing, in Belfast, Matty swapped shirts with him.

So he had this double whammy. Because he went to Nelly every gig, didn't he? And Japan and Europe and States. And then he met up with them in Japan as well. I met with him, Japan, yeah. It was all very, quite dramatic when you're like, where's my son? I don't know, let's find out where the 1975 are. That's where he'll be. That's it. That's how you find it.

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