Welcome to Off Message. I'm Isaac Dover.

This guy exists because of his appeal to racism. Politically his...

Do you think he's a racist?

That's... I'll let other people use the words they want to use.

Anybody that formed their political existence by saying that Barack Obama was born in Kenya,

that is how he started his political career.

It is not a peripheral thing to me. It is a core of his political career. It is not a peripheral thing to me.

It is a core of his political efforts.

And he has continued to exhibit that.

And I'm just saying this, that people across the country have understood that,

and that divisiveness is not acceptable in suburbs or ex-herbs or rural areas across the country.

And that's one of the reasons we will do well

this year. Today's guest, Jay Inslee, the governor of Washington, and the chair of the Democratic

Governors Association, which oversees all the campaigns for the candidates for governor around

the country and does a whole lot of fundraising for them. You may have seen Inslee in the news a little

last week when he literally stood up to President

Trump at the White House, using an event from when he was in town for the National Governors

Association to make a point about how Trump should, quote, do a little less tweeting and a little

more listening to teachers and principals on what to do about school shootings.

Inslee told me he thinks Democrats should run on gun control, and he thinks that Democrats

should run on just about everything, on sticking it to Trump, moving away from the federal

government and doing things differently in the states. Though it's more on how he says the Republicans

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