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The Conversation with Dasha Burns

Democrats' 'optimistic apostle' offers hope for the midterms

The Conversation with Dasha Burns

POLITICO

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4.01.6K Ratings

🗓️ 4 November 2022

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Simon Rosenberg is the head of the progressive think tank NDN, and he has a message for jittery Democrats on the eve of the midterms: cheer up! This week on the Playbook Deep Dive podcast we sit down with the Democratic Party’s apostle of optimism. “I'm not sitting here and telling you we're going to win,” Simon told us over lunch this week. “What I'm telling you is that the narrative about this election, about there being a red wave— there isn't one. There never has been.” If you spend a lot of time on political Twitter, you have no doubt encountered Simon’s tweets and threads over the last few weeks. He’s built a large and loyal following of Democrats looking for silver linings amid the clouds of negative media coverage about their party’s prospects in the midterms. — Hispanics abandoning his party? Simon says that NDN’s polling doesn’t show it. — Polling averages tilting to the GOP in the last few weeks? Simon says they’ve been polluted by a barrage of Republican polls dumped strategically to depress Democrats and excite Republicans. (This claim has been met with a lot of skepticism, because surely Democratic campaigns would be leaking their own internals, but we digress…) — And that red wave? Simon says that if you look at the Kansas abortion referendum, the five House special elections earlier this year, and especially the early voting data, that the anti-Trump coalition that powered Democrats to victory in 2018 and 2020 is holding strong in 2022. Ryan Lizza is a Playbook co-author for POLITICO.Simon Rosenberg is president of NDN. Afra Abdullah is associate producer for POLITICO audio.Kara Tabor is producer for POLITICO audio.Brook Hayes is senior editor for POLITICO audio.Adam Allington is senior producer for POLITICO audio.Jenny Ament is executive producer for POLITICO audio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

The idea that Democrats are going to stay home, that's not happening.

0:04.8

I mean, we're voting at incredibly high levels all across the country.

0:09.4

Simon Rosenberg has a message for jittery Democrats on the eve of the midterms.

0:15.6

Cheer up!

0:18.4

Simon has been involved in Democratic politics since the Decocus campaign in 1988.

0:24.2

In the war room, the documentary about Bill Clinton's 1992 presidential campaign,

0:28.9

you can see Simon popping up in a few shots.

0:31.8

He even helped the DNC get online via CompuServe, the pre-World Wide Web computer service.

0:38.5

And of course, even then, when we went online, it was still full of right-wing trolls just attacking us, right?

0:44.5

Even then, it was unbelievable.

0:47.5

Since 1996, he has run the Progressive Think Tank NDN,

0:52.5

which studies new political trends and advises Democrats.

0:56.9

But in the last two years, Simon has become something else.

1:01.2

The Democratic Party's Apostle of Optimism.

1:05.3

Last year, when the economy was showing signs of worsening,

1:08.6

Simon made a point of taking to Twitter

1:11.9

and emphasizing all of the data that pointed in the opposite direction.

1:16.9

And now, in the home stretch of 2022,

1:19.7

he is best known for his similarly cheery data analysis

1:23.8

about what is going to happen on Tuesday.

1:27.0

I'm not sitting here and telling you we're going to win.

1:29.0

I'm not predicting that.

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