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Political dividends, even if there's pain involved.

No responsibility on the Democrats. Or at least you don't think that the public No responsibility on the Democrats.

Or at least you don't think that the public will perceive that the Democrats are responsible.

I mean, shutdowns are terrible.

And of course, there will be, you know, families that are going to suffer.

We take that responsibility very seriously.

But it is one of the few leverage times we have.

The White House jumped on Clark's comments. Press Secretary Caroline Levitt posted this to X.

Democrats are now admitting that they are intentionally causing American families to suffer.

Leavitt then wrote, quote, what is wrong with them? Republicans worry about federal workers off the job.

The fact that we have furloughed federal employees that aren't getting paid, clearly the

evidence shows that they don't really care about federal employees.

Now the Senate takes a test vote tomorrow on a bill to pay essential workers.

Republicans want to get Democrats on the record as voting for or against those who are

working without a paycheck. John? Well, hello everybody and welcome to the Great America

show. It's great to have you with us on this beautiful day in America, day 22 of the government shutdown, and the Democrats finally admitting.

They've admitted what we've blown for the last 22 days.

This is all just show and pony.

The whole thing is just for the Democrats to grandstand for the sake of saying the orange man is bad.

Donald Trump is bad and we will not do anything or agree with anything that he says.

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