Democrats Are Out of Ideas

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

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🗓️ 8 February 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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With the help of a Yuval Levin and a Silly Putty support system, Jonah Goldberg opens this Ruminant with a recommendation not to panic about the Trump administration quite yet. He does, however, bemoan the president’s fantasy about a U.S. sovereign wealth fund before wondering about what the next generation of Democratic leaders might look like. Show Notes: —Yuval Levin and Ezra Klein —Nick Catoggio on the DOGE hoax —Jonah and Katie Herzog on Mike Pesca's The Gist The Remnant is a production of The Dispatch, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including Jonah’s G-File newsletter, weekly livestreams, and other members-only content—click here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:03.1	Greetings there, listen. Greetings, dear listeners, this is Jonah Goldberg, host of the Remnant podcast, brought to you by The Dispatch and Dispatch Media.
1:11.0	I feel like John Snow in Game of Thrones, where, you know, after he's brought back to life, he says, you know, you just come back feeling a little bit less, or like Dundarian, the guy gets brought back like seven times. I just still feel weird since I had
1:17.2	the flu, just not myself yet. I listen, you know, I'm not a, I'm not trying to hold old gripes
1:22.3	or anything like that, but, you know, there was a time when Ezra Klein annoyed me a great deal, and it's hard for me to get that
1:28.3	completely out of my system. But I did a speaking event with him last year and got along fine.
1:32.9	I think he's grown up a lot. Maybe I've grown up a lot, too. But I'm just not in the habit of rarely
1:39.0	listen to his podcast or reading his stuff, but he's been doing some good stuff lately. And then he had
1:43.4	Yvallel Yvonne on his podcast. And I wanted to listen to that because it's Yuval. And I thought
1:50.8	Yuval was really spectacular. And one of the, I'm not sure I agree with everything that he said. And again,
1:57.2	I think they recorded it at the end of last week. So like some events have,
2:01.3	you know, overtaken some of the things he said. But I highly recommend it to people who
2:06.0	are feeling a bit unmoored as we watch what's going on here with Trump. I thought Nick Catogeo's
2:14.7	piece was very, very good about a lot of this stuff.
2:18.7	I think it's very interesting how much I'm hearing from people want to express their dismay at how even a lot of the people who maintain their Trump, let's say their Trump skepticism for the last eight years are now getting giddy about
2:36.1	Trump 2.0. I'm not sure a giddy is entirely correct. But, you know, my conversation with John
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