And that's why Julian Epstein's perfect. He's a big-time lawyer, served as Chief Counsel, the House Judiciary Committee,

Staff Director, the House Oversight Committee for the Democrats in 96 and 2001.

So yesterday's ruling, Julian, essentially the Supreme Court on a 6-3 decision ruled

that there will be a degree of immunity for the president on basically when he's functioning

in his job. But stuff outside outside his job it would be up to a lower

court to decide if it is when his scope of his duties correct?

That's absolutely correct Brian and first of all good morning and thank you for having me back

Yes, it's exactly what happened in 1982 the Supreme Court ruled that sitting presidents have civil immunity and their official acts but not in their private acts and what the court did yesterday was completely

predictable. I think you and I have talked about this in previous shows. It was

completely predictable they would take the case and it was completely predictable that they would come down the way they came down the way they came down

The best way to understand this is an example if the president invokes the war powers, I can send troops into combat and some of our troops are unfortunately killed,

should he be able to be criminally tried by a prosecutor for wrongful death? Of course not, but if the court

had ruled otherwise it would leave open that possibility. But on the other hand, if the

president is bribed to drop a bomb then he could be tried

criminally that would be outside the official I want you to hear the president

described it julian i want you he would have the president described it last night. He's also a lawyer.

Cut one. Now over 200 years later, today's Supreme Court decision, once again, it'll depend on the character of the men and

women who hold that presidency that are going to define the limits of the

power of the presidency because the law will no longer do it.

I know I will respect the limits of the presidential powers I have for three and a half years.

But any president including Donald Trump will now be free to ignore the law.

So I think that was a totally mischaracterization of what was ruled.

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