So one of my most interesting interviews, I thought anyway was good energy, the co-author's brother and sister, also rare.

Cali Means is a doctor. A brother is a real enterprising businessman and they wanted to focus on health

after something happened with their with their parents

with their mom and the name of this book is called Good Energy the surprising connection

to metabolism and limitless health they're unendingly fascinated to talk to.

They're the co-founder of TrueMed Payments.

And you'll love their background, and you love their story.

I also think you're gonna love their book.

Let's relive those interviews. maybe for you it's the first time.

Let's go.

First off, what prompted you to look in to health and the food industry

and how they're related to, and how they might be in bed together.

Yeah, so my co-author is my sister and my sister at Sanford Med School did not take one course on nutrition.

She figured out that actually 80% of the entire course was on pharmacology and the majority of

Stanford med school, Harvard med school's budget comes from pharma.

I used to work for the food and farm industry and actually saw these

descends up close and what we've put together is a very simple economic

fact it's not conspiratorial it's a simple statement of economic fact is that the

largest industry in the country the health care industry they make money when your kid is sick depressed in the country, the health care industry, they make money when your kid is

sick, depressed, and fertile. They make money by treating those conditions and

managers in those conditions and they lose money when we learn metabolic habits,

when we learn the basics and get out of that

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