success is not immune to depression.

It doesn't matter how successful you are,

this thing done discriminate.

And as I mentioned earlier, at some capacity,

whether it's you or somebody you know

or somebody that you run close to in your circle is going to be dealing with this.

It might be suffering silently, so I mean it's just not being afraid to having those conversations. All right, welcome back or welcome to the Finding Mastery Podcast. I'm Michael Jervay, and by Trade and Training,

I'm a sport and performance psychologist,

as well as the co-founder of Compete to Create.

And the whole idea behind these conversations

behind this podcast is to learn from people who are

on the path of mastery. And it's not just to learn from them, but it's to apply those own

learnings in our life. And what we're doing is trying to demystify how do they organize their

inner life? How do they organize their thoughts that lead to thought patterns and how do they

take actions that are lined up with their mission of their craft, as well as their philosophies in life.

And then underneath that, we want to see if we can understand the mental skills that they use to build and refine their craft.

I am really excited to announce that this year finding mastery is releasing our first

ever holiday gift guide. Yes. Having spent decades working with and around some of the most driven people on the planet,

I know the high-performer types in your life can be a little tricky to buy for.

Their standards tend to be really high, they rarely settle. We all know the drill here. And that's why we put together a list of some of our favorite products that have been utilized by many of the leaders and athletes and creatives that we've worked with on the path for them to be able to reach their

potential. The products that are on this list are all products that I use. You can check

it out at finding mastery.com slash gift guide. You can

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