Deliverance and Healing (Part 2) w/ Dr. Sean Tobin
Restore The Glory Podcast
Jake Khym
4.9 • 971 Ratings
🗓️ 7 January 2026
⏱️ 54 minutes
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Summary
This week, Jake and Bob welcome Dr. Sean Tobin, author and psychologist, to explore the reality of spiritual warfare and deliverance ministry. Dr. Sean reframes deliverance not as a battle to fear but as a process of centering our hearts in Christ. They discuss how fear, self-reliance, and isolation fragment the soul, why the simplicity of love and praise is more powerful than you think, and the proper balance between technique and communion. This is a hopeful conversation about spiritual battle, one rooted not in fear, but in confidence in a Father who relentlessly pursues healing, wholeness, and communion with His children.
Key Points:
- Spiritual warfare is real, but we need not be afraid.
- Deliverance is not about removing darkness but allowing the light of Christ back into our hearts.
- The enemy's main tactics are to make us feel afraid, isolated, or grasp in self-reliance.
- Feeding fear or falling into superstition can strengthen spiritual bondage instead of bringing freedom
- The simple practices of faith (prayer, trust, and praise) are more profoundly effective than you think.
- Spiritual warfare is ultimately about ministering to people, not fighting demons.
- Healing involves restoring belonging, communion, and trust in God's presence.
- Like healing, deliverance is a process, and does not usually happen in a single moment.
- God can use spiritual conflict to refine, mature, and draw us into deeper communion with Him.
Resources:
- Dr. Sean Tobin's Website
- Big GOD, Little Devil by Dr. Sean Tobin
- Big GOD, Little Devil audiobook narrated by Dr. Sean Tobin
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
03:03 Dr. Sean's Background
09:59 Learning About Spiritual Warfare Can Help Increase Our Faith
16:16 How Fear Plays into the Enemy's Hands
21:37 Isolation, Self Reliance, and Distrust are Part of Spiritual Warfare
26:38 Authority and the Power of Suggestion
31:48 The Effects of Simple Practices
41:43 Technique vs Relationship with God
49:01 Words of Encouragement as You Enter the Battle
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Restore the Glory podcast. I'm Jake Kim. And I'm Bob Schutz. We're two former Catholic |
| 0:08.9 | therapists who are talking about healing and restoration and everything we've learned in our personal and |
| 0:14.3 | professional lives. Yeah, we're glad you're with us. All right, Bob. Let's get into it. Sean Tobin, |
| 0:20.4 | welcome to Restore the Glory. |
| 0:22.2 | Oh, man, such an honor to be here. |
| 0:24.4 | We're really glad to have you. |
| 0:25.6 | We, so listeners, we just went through probably the most, well, not probably, definitely the most difficult tech stuff that we've ever experienced on the podcast before. |
| 0:37.1 | So, |
| 0:43.6 | Sean, you said you have stories about interference with regard to your message. |
| 0:47.1 | Technology, yeah. Well, first of all, I love technology. I'm the guy that's going to be walking around with the meta glasses and everything. I drive a Tesla. Sorry, the Tesla drives |
| 0:51.6 | me, you know, all this. Yes. Yeah, so we couldn't get the feed to stay live, |
| 0:58.0 | or it kept dropping when I started at my last location, my mobile office. |
| 1:02.7 | But with this story, when I started sharing this message |
| 1:06.2 | actually at Encounter Ministries conferences, |
| 1:09.3 | the first three times that I shared this message, |
| 1:13.8 | even on multiple recording devices, |
| 1:16.2 | it didn't get captured. |
| 1:18.9 | Three times in a row, |
| 1:20.1 | three different conferences, |
| 1:21.3 | multiple recording devices. |
| 1:23.2 | But since the books come out, |
| 1:24.8 | it's just been weird. |
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