Deliverance and Healing (Part 1)

Restore The Glory Podcast

Jake Khym

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.9 • 971 Ratings

🗓️ 24 December 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

This week, Jake and Bob discuss the relationship between healing, deliverance, and spiritual warfare. They explore the nature of spiritual strongholds (patterns of thoughts or beliefs that oppose the reality of who God is) and why these strongholds often obstruct emotional and spiritual healing. Jake and Bob also nuance the distinction between ordinary and extraordinary experiences of grace and how the supernatural is hidden within the quiet or ordinary moments. Finally, they address the role of spiritual authority within the Church, the importance of recognizing your own authority, and why authentic healing flows from relationship with Christ rather than technique.

Key Points:

The healing and deliverance processes are deeply connected
Spiritual warfare is part of everyday life
Strongholds are built from repeated thoughts, beliefs, and lies that oppose the reality of who God is
The ordinary is often where the supernatural is most active. Extraordinary experiences are not a measure of God's presence in our lives
Wounds can become entry points for spiritual influence if left unaddressed
Deliverance often involves dismantling lies and beliefs (strongholds) rather than confronting extraordinary manifestations
Prayer, the Sacraments, and virtues are our weapons in spiritual warfare
Healing comes from relationship with Christ, not because of a specific prayer formula or technique
There are different levels of spiritual authority within the Church

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction

03:02 Engaging in a Spiritual Battle as a Catholic

12:21 How Do We Pull Down Strongholds in Our Life?

18:21 The Supernatural isn't Exclusive to Extraordinary Moments

25:11 Ordinary and Extraordinary Dynamics in Healing and Deliverance

34:56 The Difference Between Human and Angelic Intelligence

43:55 What are the Different Levels of Authority in the Church?

57:43 How Can We Exercise Our Authority?

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0:00.0	Welcome to Restore the Glory podcast. I'm Jake Kim.
0:06.5	And I'm Bob Schutz.
0:08.0	We're two former Catholic therapists who are talking about healing and restoration and everything
0:12.9	we've learned in our personal and professional lives.
0:15.2	Yeah, we're glad you're with us.
0:17.0	All right, Bob. Let's get into it.
0:20.0	Bob, it was great to be with you.
0:22.6	Last week, we're recording this after coming off of a priest retreat.
0:27.1	It's always a pleasure to be with you and serve the priest there.
0:29.6	And God bless all those priests who we were able to be with.
0:32.8	We thought that we would go into today a conversation about deliverance and healing.
0:40.2	And it was something that was nuanced and the teaching that was going on with the priests
0:44.8	and it's stuff that you and I talked a lot about.
0:46.5	We thought, hey, this could be really good.
0:48.1	And we're aware that we have some guests coming up who will be discussing this topic.
0:53.5	So we wanted to get into it a little bit ourselves first to dialogue it out. So do you want to start with the scripture or do you have any initial thoughts? Yeah, let's start with the scripture. Okay. I do have an initial thought, which is you beat me again in our one-on-one matchups and cornholes. I wasn't going to say anything. Yeah, but it was only a little bit this time.
1:11.5	We didn't play enough games for it to be a lot.
1:14.2	That's an interesting take, Bob.
1:16.1	But I won all the rest of my individual games against Christopher and that.
1:20.9	So you're the champ.
1:22.9	So that makes you the champ.
1:24.3	I think I use psychological warfare against you.
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