Welcome back to the podcast, Brib, Swindle, or Steel.

I'm Alexandra Addison Rogge, and for this week's podcast, we're listening in on a presentation from the recent Trace Forum, featuring Misty Mukerjee and Deborah Joy Paris.

Misty is a partner at Extentio Law, and is Chief Equity Officer and Senior Advisor to the CEO at the United States Pharmacopoeia.

Together they explore the semantic minefield of DEI, share recommendations for implementing evidence-based equitable practices,

and emphasize that DEI should not be a side hustle but an

integral part of every organization's compliance framework. Misty begins by

reflecting on a conversation from last year's forum about the Students for Fair

Admissions case which sets the table for today's discussion. Here's Misty. It's nice to

see you all. I very much enjoy being with you.

I wonder how many of you were here last year when we had a conversation about the Supreme

Court's decision on this topic.

That sort of set the table for our conversation today.

That case, as you may recall, was a key inflection point on the issue of diversity, equity,

and inclusion in the corporate environment. And the Supreme Court's decision striking down

affirmative action and college admissions prompted a broader reassessment of this work within organizations.

And during that session, we talked about the ways in which organizations could respond to that

call for reassessment.

And what we'll talk about today is a little bit more along the same lines.

There is a lot of characterization of this work and

its place in the modern environment. And I think as with many topics that you probably have

covered today, it's important to remember the core values and to not be distracted. And to remember that at the end of the day, these

principles and many legal principles have been in place since 1964. So we are adjusting to some

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