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Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary

Defense Attorney, Bob Motta, Breaks Down The REAL Issues The Prosecution May Face In Convicting Lori Vallow Daybell

Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary

True Crime Today

News, News Commentary, True Crime

3.3908 Ratings

🗓️ 11 April 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Is Lori Vallow really about to try and out-lawyer seasoned attorneys with a jailhouse law degree and a few self-help legal guides?

Defense Attorney Bob Motta returns to unpack the chaos unfolding in Lori Vallow Daybell’s Arizona murder trial. The courtroom is off to a sluggish start, with first responders and early witnesses laying the foundation—while Lori awkwardly plays the role of self-represented legal eagle. Her cross-examinations? Less "courtroom drama," more "confused deposition cosplay." Despite fumbling through legal jargon like “the evidence will show” (ad nauseam), her opening wasn’t a total trainwreck... until you remember she’s promising to prove things that only ghosts could back up.

The million-dollar question: will Lori testify? If she does, her whole rap sheet walks through the door with her—and jurors will get a front-row seat to her greatest hits. Motta breaks down the defense strategy, or lack thereof, and why Lori’s “Alex was protecting Tylee from Charles” narrative might not hold water, especially with no history of abuse to back it up.

Also discussed: the prosecution’s decision to keep the religious zombie talk to a minimum this time around, and whether this version of the trial works better without diving into the apocalyptic fanfic that made headlines the first go-round.

Is Lori just biding her time before she turns this into a full-on courtroom doomsday sermon?

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0:00.0

This is Hidden Killers with Tony Brewski.

0:04.2

Lori Daybell.

0:06.2

Lori effing Daybell, as we like to refer to her around here.

0:11.6

Oh my gosh, the trial is underway.

0:14.6

I've been watching as much as I possibly can of it.

0:18.0

We've been bringing you a lot of clips, the opening statements on both

0:21.4

sides and kind of breaking down stuff piece by piece. But a man who's been literally watching it

0:26.1

play by play. Bob Mata, defense attorney, host of the podcast Defense Diaries. I'm going to throw it to

0:32.4

you because you've seen more of this than I have thus far. What the hell is your take on it?

0:39.6

It's, well, number one, hey, what's up to you?

0:42.8

It's been a minute.

0:43.6

Yeah.

0:44.7

Welcome back, welcome back.

0:45.8

Thank you.

0:46.2

It's boring so far.

0:49.6

It's like the key, the key kind of phrase that I can think of, the best way to describe it thus far.

0:56.1

It's like any state case, it kind of clunks out of the gate a little bit.

1:02.6

And, you know, they're putting on the witnesses kind of building the timeline.

1:06.9

And, you know, ultimately we'll start getting into the juicier stuff in terms of the real evidence that can prove that she was a part of the conspiracy.

1:15.3

But right now, we're just, you know, with the first responders, you know, the first cop to the scene, hear a little bit from those folks.

1:24.2

And then kind of like forced to listen through Lori's inane cross-examinations where

1:31.0

it's hard to describe what she's doing. She's not like she's asking all these questions.

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