Defending those who refuse to fight
Ukrainecast
BBC
4.7 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 13 July 2022
⏱️ 36 minutes
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Summary
The BBC Russian’s Olga Ivshina explains how her and her team have been able to estimate the number of Russian soldiers killed in Ukraine and buried in Russia by sending volunteers to visit cemeteries.
Also, we hear from Mikhail Benyash, a Russian human rights lawyer who has been advising Russian soldiers who don’t want to fight in Ukraine.
The BBC’s Security correspondent, Frank Gardner explains why he believes Russia is currently militarily winning the war.
And the team discusses the toll the war has also taken on the Russian people. The series producer is Estelle Doyle. The producers Alix Pickles, Arsenii Sokolov and Osman Iqbal. The technical producer is Emma Crowe. And the editor is Jonathan Aspinwall. Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 0330 1239480.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC sounds, music, radio, podcasts. |
| 0:05.0 | Hello, it's exactly 140 days since Russia |
| 0:08.9 | began its invasion of Ukraine. |
| 0:10.9 | And Ukraine's military says it has destroyed |
| 0:14.0 | a Russian ammunition depot in the southern city |
| 0:17.5 | of Nova Karkova, killing dozens of soldiers. |
| 0:22.0 | And there's various footage being shared |
| 0:24.5 | on social media of powerful explosions. |
| 0:31.0 | Well, this attack apparently involved |
| 0:35.0 | the U.S. supplied missile system, the Cycle Heimars, |
| 0:38.0 | which stands for high mobility artillery rocket system. |
| 0:42.0 | These are multiple rocket launches, very accurate, |
| 0:45.0 | long-range, very effective. |
| 0:47.0 | Now, a Russian-installed official in the southern |
| 0:50.0 | hair-song region, Catherine Agubareva, |
| 0:52.0 | accused Ukraine of bombing peaceful cities |
| 0:56.0 | with American weapons. |
| 0:58.0 | And other Russian officials say homes and warehouses |
| 1:01.0 | were also hit, leaving seven people dead |
| 1:04.0 | and up to 80 people injured. |
| 1:06.0 | It hasn't been possible to actually verify |
| 1:08.0 | the exact extent of damage or casualties. |
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