That distance that they can travel, they can come at bases from any direction.

In general, we can detect something and have 30 seconds and two minutes of heads up to either make a decision or get people in a bunker.

You clearly want to shoot with your furthest weapon that can hit it down.

So as it gets closer and closer, you're using everything you can.

It was almost like we were being hunted versus hunting.

Hey, welcome back to the Modern War Institute podcast, brought to you with the very generous

support of the West Point Class of 1974. I'm John Amble, editorial director at MWI, and on this

episode, I'm joined by Colonel Scott Wentz. He is the commander of 2nd Brigade Combat Team,

10th Mountain Division, a unit that recently returned from a nine-month deployment to the Middle East.

And during that deployment, the brigade's units were targeted by more than 100 attacks by drones,

one-way attack unmanned aircraft systems to be specific.

That means that the brigade has more experience defending against drones than any other unit in the Army.

We discussed that experience in this episode, along with some of the lessons that we can draw from it.

You'll also hear another voice in the podcast a few times.

That's Major Anthony Padalino, who was responsible for overseeing base defense operations at Al-Assad Air Base,

one of eight bases across Iraq and Syria where the brigade soldiers were located.

It is an interesting and insightful conversation on a really important subject.

But before we get to it, as always, a few quick notes.

First, very special thanks to the West Point Class of 1974 for their generous support to

MWI. Second, be sure to subscribe to the MWI podcast on your favorite podcast app so you don't miss an

episode.

And finally, as always, what you hear in this episode are the views of the participants and don't

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