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Deepfake Videos Just Got More Realistic…and More Dangerous

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News Commentary, News, Politics

4.2727 Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

AI video creation software is advancing rapidly and some of its output is very alarming. OpenAI’s Sora, currently the most downloaded app in the App Store, allows users to create incredibly realistic deepfake videos with minimal effort. One viral example? A fake video of OpenAI CEO Sam Altman shoplifting in a department store. With technology this convincing, how can we trust what we see online? And what kind of destabilizing impact could this have on our society? Guests: Max Read, journalist, screenwriter, editor, former editor at Gawker and Select All Alice Marwick, director of research, Data & Society Jason Koebler, co-founder, 404 Media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:36.1

Deep fake videos, that is to say, videos that look real, but that were synthesized by AI systems,

0:42.3

have long troubled anyone who has thought about the relationship between technology and society for more than about three minutes.

0:49.3

In our world, video is the gold standard for evidence. It's how we think we know something happened, seeing and hearing are believing.

0:58.6

But now with a few swipes on a phone, you can create a surveillance video of Sam Altman,

1:04.0

the CEO of OpenAI stealing stuff at Target or SpongeBob SquarePants getting arrested or a friend

1:10.7

caught in a compromising position?

1:12.6

What could go wrong?

1:14.6

While OpenAI has said they put in guardrails that will protect people from bad actors and misuse,

1:19.6

new reporting by 4404 media suggests that at least one of those measures has already been broken.

1:25.6

And even if some of the videos are janky now, this

1:28.7

new level of realism suggests we're well on our way to a world in which real and fake

1:34.9

video are impossible to distinguish. Here to discuss what that could mean, we've got Max

1:40.7

Reed, journalist, screenwriter, editor, former editor at Gawer, and Select All. Welcome, Max. Thanks for having me. We've got Jason Kebler, who's co-founder of 404 Media. Welcome. Hey, happy to be here. And we've got Alice Marwick, Director of Research at the Data and Society. Welcome. Thanks for having me. Jason, let's start with you. I mean, just kind of introduce us to SORA a little bit.

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