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Why Do We Fall for Charlatans?

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News Commentary, News, Politics

4.2 • 727 Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

What makes us vulnerable to charlatans? A new book by journalist Quico Toro takes a close look at charismatic manipulators from literal snake oil peddlers to crypto scammer Sam Bankman-Fried. We talk to Toro about how charlatans exploit our need for certainty, belonging and leadership — and why the tricks are old, but thanks to viral amplification on social media, the scale is new. Toro’s book, co-written with Moisés Naim, is “Charlatans: How Grifters, Swindlers, and Hucksters Bamboozle the Media, the Markets, and the Masses.” Guests: Francisco Toro, author, "Charlatans: How Grifters, Swindlers, and Hucksters "Bamboozle the Media, the Markets, and the Masses" - he's also director of climate repair at the Anthropocene Institute Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome to Forum. I'm Mina Kim. When you think of a charlatan, who comes to mind?

0:40.3

People out to exploit you with their promises are nothing new, but according to my guest, Francisco Toro,

0:47.3

spawning the charlatan has become a key survival skill for the 21st century, when technology

0:53.3

has improved to charlatans' methods and

0:56.0

created an endless number of potential marks. Have you or someone close to you ever been

1:00.9

influenced by someone you later realized was a charlatan? Toro has co-written with Moises Naim,

1:07.4

a new book out today called Charlottons, How Grifters, Swindlers, and Hucksters, bamboozle

1:12.0

the media, the markets, and the masses. He joins me now. Welcome to Forum, Kiko.

1:16.8

Thanks so much for having me. So you say charlatans are not mere scammers or fraudsters. So what defines a charlatan?

1:24.6

Well, sure. I mean, a scammer or a fraudster is someone who comes into your life,

1:29.9

takes advantage of you, and then disappears. They're usually anonymous. Charlatans aren't really

1:35.6

like that. Charlatans are public figures. They operate out in the open under their own name,

1:41.5

and they dig their claws into you, and they can manipulate you over the long term.

1:48.0

So I think that's really distinctive.

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