Hey, welcome back to the Jason Gattis podcast.

Here's a quick one for you.

Have you noticed the difference between good listeners and bad listeners. And smart people versus good listeners.

I have this observation I make when I'm traveling,

meeting new people, interacting with, you know, mostly entrepreneurial type people,

that there's really two kinds of people, which fall into two kinds of listeners.

There's the curious people who are genuinely curious and interested in who you are. They want to understand you

and they put effort into listening. And then the other people who basically at cocktail hour,

they just make small talk. And you run out of things to say to each other and you kind of look for another drink or

you look to go to the snack, get a snack at the appetizer table.

And you look to like someone to come, please someone come save me from this conversation

because I don't know what to talk about with this person.

And I get curious about what kind of person you are.

So, for example, I was at an event recently.

And recently in the last, let's say, four months.

And I have trained myself to have the ability to drill down with people kind of endlessly.

And I can turn that on or I can turn it off depending on how I feel.

And I observe.

I'm an observer of human beings and human behavior.

So I'm at this event, and I must have interacted with probably 30 people at this event.

And there was probably 75 people totally there.

Total there.

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