Welcome to the high and low podcast.

This is your host, Bravo, Bravo, Bravo, Ducking, Bravo.

And today we have a special deep dive.

In order to get ready for Real Housewives of Orange County,

I am delivering on my promise to look into the little fellow with the jackets,

Ryan, who's dating Jennifer,

specifically to understand what scandal it is that he was a part of that we heard about on the

news. Like, what is, what is this? What was his role in it? And why is it a big deal? Because I have

no doubt that this will not be talked about this season. I will be absolutely shocked if they talk about this issue at all on the show.

One, it's kind of complicated, but kind of not.

And two, I think that we always have to rely on another cast member presenting these kinds of questions.

And it seems like Tamara already used her, I'm coming to get

you, Jen card. She used that last season. So it would be really unexpected if Tamara led the

charge to look into this situation. So I don't think anybody will. I would love to be wrong.

Because we know when Ms. Kern, when she was dealing with her Black Bill Gates being in some financial issues, nobody cut her any slack.

We talked about it. We heard about it. There was a press conference. And by that, I mean, the meeting where Giselle wrote all over a T-shirt and they sat around a table and they were rude to each other. I don't see that happening in the OC.

I think it's going to all be about Shannon.

And it's kind of a long and winding tail.

So I'm just going to jump right into it.

Before I do, let me give my usual disclaimer.

When I do a dive, I do not know any of the people involved.

Everything that I'm going to share is research that I have done from absolutely

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