And welcome to another deep dive.

Here today we have Chris Cooper.

Chris, thank you for coming on again soon after your latest appearance.

Thanks, Brad. I love this format. It's going to be a lot of fun.

Yeah.

If you guys are here for Sage affiliate wisdom, who knows, Chris could weasel his way there on his own without my prompting

on this episode. We could get there, but right now I don't foresee it going there. And so if you want,

I mean, all of it is related, but if you want very direct how to grow your affiliate,

how to grow your business, Sevan, Susa, and Chris talked about such things on the last podcast.

That was just a couple weeks ago.

Chris has come on pretty much once or twice a year, once every six months or something,

for the last few years.

And they're all really amazing podcasts, so I encourage anybody listening

who wants more of that to go check it out.

And Chris's audiobooks uh as as my wife

and I have been in this season of getting into CrossFit and coaching CrossFit is a gym is starting a

gym something we'd be interested and so we listened to your first audiobook um which it excellent

and all read by you thank you for reading it oh that's

amazing to be here yeah thanks and I I'll apologize to Sean because so when I

did founder farmer Tinker Thief that was my longest book and probably not the best

book but I had Sean Woodland do the reading for it.

And six months later, I revised it,

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